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PUBLIC SAFETY DEPT. STUDY PROPOSAL, continued
he would certainly move in that direction because he was somewhat
disenchanted with the fact that the people are powerless to a great
extent over their government. He said his thinking was that a balance
between those two positions would be for this Council to be able to
ratify the top department heads; he didn' t mean for them to interview
them and hire them and go through that process; he was talking about a
slight change in the ordinances of the City so the Council does have
some say at the point of who will be hired and who is not acceptable.
The Mayor said to Mr. Baughman whether they agreed or disagreed they
could not discuss it; it was not on the agenda and they were forbidden
to have anything to do with the hiring so they would not go into that
discussion that night.
Mr. Miller said the slot for the Public Safety Director was there in
the ordinances now and it seemed to him the analysis the Manager had
given them was sound and he had confidence in him. He said if anyone
had any question about their confidence in the City Manager he guessed
they should lay that on the table, saying he had his. Mr. Miller said
he thought his presentation made reason to him; it seemed sound as regards-
that slot. Mr. Miller said it was not filled now and was not causing the
City any harm, and if it were not appropriated by the Council it would
not be filled in the future, but if it got to the point where the City
was compelled to fill it or if it gets to the point that the Manager
makes a recommendation to fill it and they concur with that by funding,
that was how to control the issue.
Mr. Grant asked the City Attorney concerning the City Manager' s recommendation~
if he had discussed it with him. The Attorney said he had not but thought
he had pretty well discerned from the discussion what the issues were.
Mr. Grant asked the Attorney if there were any comments relevent to
his proposal. The Attorney said as he understood the issue had to do with
whether or not there is a permament police chief/ public safety director
hired at this point with the understanding that he fills both slots
for the time being and that if for the reason of a federal court imposition
that we could do nothing about there is a requirement that one of them
be filled by Mr. Ray, then this man still has a job and can stay with
the City and as he understood if it were any other way, there would
be no way you could attract a qualified candidate to take the position.
The Attorney said one of the reasons the position he knew he recommended
to Mr. Sprague quite some time ago to be filled - he concurred in the
Council IS recommendation to Mr. Sprague - that the position not be filled
permanently and he knew that discussions back in August, 1981 were that
it really didn' t make sinse to fill permanently until there was some
resolution of the issue pending with the thought that within 90 days
or so the matter would be resolved.
Mr. Baughman 9aid that brought up; or sounded to him, basically in the
last comments the City Manager had that it might be better for them
to leave the situation as it was until they resolve the court suit and
he thought it a shame that the court suit continues to affect the operation
of the City but nevertheless.
Mr. Bishop said as things stood if the City Manager felt he needed to do
somthing he would support him since he was appointed City Manager it was
his game to manage the City. The Mayor asked if she had a motion.
Mr. Miller said nODe was appropriate; the Manager was just reporting
to them what he was going to do. He was giving them that courtesy.
The Mayor asked the Manager if he wanted anything, because Council
had nothing to do with hiring and firing. The Manager said along those
lin~s they did need to take a look at the ordinances because he thought
there were some very serious errors in them as far as classifications
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were concerned and in essence there were two positions in the city
period at this point.
Mayor asked the Manager if they might hold with item c and get back to
Mr. Smith , who had returned to the meeting with the Attorney regarding his
Brooks Street proposal.
I The Attorney said they had discussed the matter of the comprehensive plan
and he thought they probably concluded that group element of the plan was
most vague as they had expected. He said there were plans on file with the
City in the form of the executive sunrnary of the RDA comprehensive plan which
shows that Brooks Street is a 4- lane highway. He said Mr. Smith was very
generous in concluding with him that it really didn' t make a lot of sense
for the city to approve a building plan which would place a building in
the middle of a 4~ laneroad and at the same time Mr. Smith is correct that
obviously he is being held up and they did not know his time calendar
but apparently that was a problem to him. The Attorney said it would be
possible for the City to approve in concept Mr. Smith; s project as it is
presented to them without variances upon a condition that no building or
any part of a building would be constructed with 51' of the Brooks St.
line. The Attorney said if that were done, in talking with the Public
Works Director and theRDA director they were satisfied that it would not
violate the comprehensive plan; that would also allow without any variances
Mr. Smith to have the permission he needs to go ahead with his construction
and in fact at that point he was not completely certain that there was
a requirement for Council' s conceptual approval but in any event, so
long as there was no objection he would grant that conceptual approval
assuming that compromise was acceptable to Council. He had told Mr.
Smith, that in the interim if within the next week or so he decides
he wants to go back to the Board of Adjustment by requesting them to hold
a special meeting to address the subject of his variances and at some
point substitute plans.
Mr. Miller moved that Council reconsider the motion made earlier. Motion
seconded by Mr. Thornber and carried unanimously.
Mr. Bishop moved that they approve the project conceptually with the
stipulation the City Attorney made of the 5' 11. Motion seconded by Mr.
Baughman. Mr. Miller asked if any other conditions needed to be in
the motion. Mr. Chesser read something they had written up during their
discussion: " Conceptual approval be granted to the project as presented
however, without variances and with the condition that no building or part
of a building be permanently constructed closer than 51' from the Brooks Street
the exisitng property line). Mr. Bishop and Mr. Baughman accepted that in
the motion. The motion carried unanimously. It was noted the an ordinance study
was probably in order to avoid such future incidents.
1 Meeting recessed at 9: 05 and reconvened at 9: 15.
The City Manager commented in regard to Mr. Baughman' s comments, saying he
guessed some could consider the City Manager' s position as being a dictatorship,
however, the International City Manager' s Association did not; he noted the
Police Chief' s Association had put together a booklet and it outlined the particular
method that he protrayed to them earlier; saying it was their recommendation
of a procedure for hiring a police chief. He said at the same time that also got
the Council involved so they could see that their City Manager was doing a proper
job without taking advantage of his position. He noted the following ordinance that
was coming up later on did the same thing. He said in that way if they found a
City Manager who believed in a dictatorship and wanted to take advantage of it
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they could spot that before he got in too deep and could possibly take action
to relieve him of his job.
Mr. Baughman asked the City Manager to please understand his viewpoints,
and they were strong, but they were not critical of him ( Mr. Bechtel) they
were critical of the ordinances the way they were set up. He said it was
not Mr. Bechtel' s fault, that he had come in after the fact but Mr. Baughman
said he did feel strongly about it and had done so for seven, eight, or
nine years. He said it was not a criticism of Mr. Bechtel and he certainly
did not intend that.
The City Manager said he was just saying the manner or the way he had attempted
to handle was so that the Council themselves could make sure that the City
Manager was not taking advantage of his position and he said he felt it was
good to have a healthy discussion. Mr. Miller said he was going to hope and
presume that the City Manager would not feel that their faiJure to participate
in the manner the Manager had outlined that he felt was receptive to; it would
not be offensive to the Manager if they interpreted the code to say they were
prohibited from taking even that action and he ~ rsonally did. He said he wanted
to let the Manager know; sayinghe personally would not IJdrticipate even to the
degree that he had outlined and invited the Council to do and he, himself
perceived that to be a violation of the Charter. The Mayor said she felt this
was personal matter each of the members of Council would have to
decide. She said as long as the Manager asked for no input, she felt they
were not in any way violating the Charter.
Mr. Baughman said one point must be very clear; he said if you read the Charter
as it pertained to city employees, it did not say that the City Council had
no right to be interested in order to provide reconmendations to the City
Manager; it said the Council would deal with that part of his job through
him. Mr. Baughman said it did not say they the Council would not deal with it
at all. He said it said they would deal with it through the City Manager.
Mr. Baughman said when you took two or three areas of it, it became kind of
a gray area, because one said one kind of thin9-6t. one kind of .another,
but the word used was " through." Mr. Baughman thought it certainly was proper
for him to discuss it with him if he so choose.
The City Manager said the Council were the ears of the community and he wished
to take advantage of that if he could.
FIRE Mrs. Thornber asked that the minutes reflect that tbey were aware that this
FIGHTERS was Fire Fighters Appreciation Week. The Mayor indicated agreement in appreciat-,
