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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 109
OF THE CITY OF FORT WALTON BEACH. FLORIDA
JANUARY 22. 1997
INTRODUCTION The December 17, 1996 Special Meeting of the City Council of
Fort Walton Beach, Florida, was reconvened on Wednesday,
January 15, 1997 at 5: 30 p. m. and on Tuesday, January 22,
1997, at 4: 00 p. m. in the Council Chambers at City Hall,
with the following members present:
Councilmen: Clay Carnathan
I Bob Campbe 11
James Watson
Chris Gibson
Dean Covey
Jim Murtha, Mayor Pro Tem
Cissy Wyninegar
Absent: Mayor Larry Trenary
Also Present: Reid Silverboard, City Manager; Helen
Spencer, City Clerk; Jerry Miller, City Attorney; Media
CALL TO ORDER The Mayor Pro Tem reconvened the meeti ng from Wednesday.
January 15, 1997.
The Mayor Pro Tem stated he needed an understanding on some
items that have arisen. First of all. he reported the
Mayor will no longer be presiding over the meetings. That
will be the responsibility of the Mayor Pro Tem.
Secondly, it wasrevealed that one of the councilmembers
suffers from ALS. and the Mayor Pro Tem was seeking an
agreement among the parties as to what should be done if the
councilmember is unable to continue at the meeting, whether
the meeting should be called to an end for that session, or
if the councilmember has to leave, whether he will no longer
be consi dered a voti ng member. The City Attorney stated if
the councilmember is not present for a portion of the
session, it is his guidance that the councilmember not
further participate. However, with the concurrence of the
parties involved and recorded tapes that can be listened to
to fi 11 the i nformati on gap of not bei ng present, the Ci ty
Attorney deferred to the represented part; es to have them
guide as to what they believe will be acceptable and
permissible. Mr. Lorenz stated that from the viewpoint of
the Staff. he has no problems with timeouts being taken or
the counci 1 member revi ewi ng the tapes of the pub 1 i c
proceedi ngs. Mr. Theri aque had no objecti ons as to how
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Council wants to proceed; however, to assure the record all
parties would have to agree to the decision of Council.
RECESS The meeting recessed at 4: 05 p. m.
RECONVENE The meeting reconvened at 4: 10 p. m.
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DOLPHIN BAY Mr. Dewre 11 stated the issue has been di scussed wi th hi s
CONT) client. They do not want to eliminate or inhibit the
councilmember' s participation in the proceedings. They are
however. concerned with the option of listening to the
tapes, as it may take away the council member ' s abil ity to
observe the witnesses and their demeanor, thus effecting
perception of testimony. They do not feel this is a viable
alternative. Mr. Dewrell further stated they do not have a
problem with taking relatively short breaks; however, they
would object to a delay of a day or more, since time is of
the essence.
As an instruction of law, The City Attorney requested not to
take this exercise by the applicant to their disadvantage in
anyway. He recommended that Council conduct themselves as
they normally do. they are in If
charge of the agenda.
Council feels it is necessa ry for the sess i on to termi nate
for the day or night. they have the authority to recess and
reconvene at the next appointed hour.
The Mayor Pro Tem stated he and the councilmember have
discussed the situation. and the Mayor Pro Tem will be
advised if the councilmember is feeling tired. The Mayor
Pro Tem stated they wi 11 press on, and a 15- mi nute recess
will be taken at 6: 30. reconvene at 6: 45 and continue until
9: 00 p. m.
Mr. Lorenzreported that Susanne Sims is not present due to
illness, presentation of the case is scheduled to
and their
begi n toni ght. Mr. Lorenz wi 11 present thei r wi tness Gail
Easley in place of Ms. Sims. If Mr. Lorenz finishes with
Ms. Easley and there is time left over in the session, he
will have to choice but to ask for a recess until the
following day. Mr. Dewrell stated if that happened he could
begin his rebuttal in the time left and take Ms. Sims
testimony out of order upon her return.
The Ci ty a 11 wi tnesses who have been
Attorney stated that
sworn still under oath. and if any witnesses are called
are
who have not been sworn in to bring it to his attention.
The City Attorney stated Mr. Howard Landers is on the stand
subject to cross- examination by Mr. Theriaque. who
questioned Mr. Landers extensively on the issues of
compatibility on various projects. Mr. Dewrell objected to
thi s 1 i ne of questi oni ng, stati ng other projects have no
relevance in this case. Mr. Theriaque explained his
objective was to inquire into the past testimony of Mr.
Landers on compat i bil i ty issues. The Ci ty Attorney
recommended that Counci 1 sustai n the objecti on. Upon
further questioning, Mr. Dewrell objected to Mr. Theriaque' s
opi ni ons regardi ng Mr. Landers' 1 ack of knowl edge whether
the court agreed or disagreed on compatibility analysis of
pri or projects. Mr. Theri aque presented a cert i fi ed copy
purchased from the Shalimar Courthouse, which was the final
order in the Save Crystal Beach decision. recorded in Book
1924. page 1298. Mr. Dewre11 objected to the presentation
of the final order based on the fact it has no relevancy in
th1.s~~€ .
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DOLPHIN BAY Mr. Theri aque stated thi s is a deci s ion Mr. Landers stated
CONT) he has not read. and it states speci fi c fi ndi ngs that the
court disagrees with Mr. Landers conclusions. Mr. Theriaque
stated since Mr. Landers does not reca 11 havi ng read the
decision, he has no way to address it other than to present
the decision itself. Mr. Dewrell reiterated his standing
objection and moved it be stricken on the grounds previously
stated. The City Attorney stated he has some problems with
the relevancy of the perspective of the prior case, and his
I recommendation to Council was not to admit the document into
the record. Mr. Theriaque stated it goes to the credibility
of the wi tness to make a compat i bil i ty determi nat ion. that
it is a public record recorded in Okaloosa County.
Council can take judi ci a 1 noti ce of the pub 1 i c record.
and
The
City Attorney explained the objection was well taken, that a
di fference of opi ni on exi sted among parti es about whether
evidence should be considered. and he does not think there
is an appropriate foundation and factual information
regarding the facts of another case that would justify
admitt i ng the document into the record. For i dent i fi cat ion
purposes. the Ci ty Attorney marked the document Exhi bi t 20
and called upon Council to make a motion to admit or not
admit the document into the record.
Mr. Carnathan moved that the document marked Exhibit 20. the
certified copy of the final order in the Save Crystal Beach
deci s ion. recorded in Book 1924. page 1298 purchased frOOl
the Shalimar Courthouse by Mr. TheriaQue. not be a<init ed
into the record. Mot i on was seconded by Mr. Carnpbe 11 and
ca rri ed by a vote of 4 to 1 wi th Ca rnathan . Campbe 11 .
Murtha. and Wyni negar in favor and Watson opposed ( Gi bson
and Covey abstained).
The City Attorney reiterated the document is marked Exhibit
20 for identification purposes.
With the use of a City map, discussion ensued regarding the
exact boundaries of the Elliot' s Point neighborhood. the
exact location of the proposed Dolphin Bay project. the CRA
boundaries. and the ownership of various apartment complexes
in the a rea. Mr. Dewre 11 obj ected to Mr. Theri aque' s 1 i ne
of questioning regarding an apartment complex in the Dewrell
family since 1948.
Questioning of Mr. Landers was completed.
Mr. Lorenz began his questioning of Ms. Gail Easley, who was
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sworn in by the Ci ty Attorney. Ms. Eas 1 ey rei terated that
her business address is PO Box 1436. Crystal River.
Flori da. She bri efly di scussed the nature of her
profession. educational
