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inaudible) that you agree
to table this whole thing and whole conversation,
the way I heard it, you' re gonna need an attorney
to tell you wha~ s left so ( inaudible) has attorneys,
there' s an awful lot being said, table this whole
thing until you do have an attorney cause I' ve got
some friends on this Council ( inaudible).
Mr. Dewrell said, City Council, I am not here for the
purpose of ( inaudible) all I want to say is this, is
the, what I ( inaudible) saw is the reason behind Mr.
Franklin' s move, and why I tried the best I could to
warn you that you can' t put this by ( inaudible) simply
by going through the motions. Now I think that you
need an attorney, was here, let me assure you, Mr.
Baughman, that if this Council continues to act, with
a record disregard for the law and the
rights of the
citizens of Fort Walton Beach, realize fully that
against you, not necessarily as representatives of the
City of Fort Walton Beach, but as individuals ( inaudi-
ble).
A citizen said, stop their action.
Mr. Dewrell said, I realize that, I realize that some
people within the City of Fort Walton have to follow
inaudible) was particular alliances or because of
their particularly labor union, some management, dis-
agree with the petition that I have. I do not intend,
it is not my purpose to threaten you, it is my purpose
to suggest the difference between my judgment as an
attorney, as Mr. Franklin has done and I needed to get
some information ( inaudible). But you might want to
discuss with an attorney whether you~ proceeding
properly at this time. And the consequences of the
action that you might take. There is no solution to
I this matter. Mr. Franklin says he' s in favor of a
recall, let me state ( inaudible) through his attorney.
If we can submit this petition, let those who want to
fire Winston Walker come out, resign, hold an election,
let them ( inaudible) if the citizens of Fort Walton
Beach ( inaudible) all the better. It' s just that
simple. ( inaudible) This is going to cause us additional
problems in trying to return our City to the smooth
efficient progressive and enlightened administration
that we previously had ( inaudible) and I know ( inaudible)
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Mayor said, thank you for your talk Mr. Dewrell, we
will duly note it.
Mr. Dewrell said, alright. Now the only other point
that I wanted to make is the recall petition, that we
have discussed. Why don' t we wait and let you get
I the input from the citizens of the City of Fort
Walton Beach before you carry this out.
Mayor siad, we have input from the City of Fort
Walton Beach at the last election. It is amazing
what you do learn when you run for office.
Mr. Dewrell said, the only thing I' m arranging is
that we' ll proceed with the recall, we intend to
bring that in before the people of the City of Fort
Walton and we will proceed with our actions seeking
full regress.
Mayor said, we have duly noted your request.
Mr. Franklin said, sir, if you will just wait til
I make a statement please, on my motion.
A citizen said, Mr. Dewrell said for them to resign.
If this is the way its going to be ( inaudible)
the recall, he' s gonna ask some other people to re-
sign. Now you believe that? Why don' t all seven
of you resign, and we' ll have a completely new
election? Why don' t all of you resign?
My name is Lou Carlisle and I am a citizen of Fort
Walton Beach for many years, I voted in five elec-
tions, I' m glad the change in the Council was made.
I graciously, Madame Mayor for what
respect you,
you have appointment ( inaudible)
done in I' ve seen
a lawyer come up here and judge you that you are
guilty and ( inaudible) his legal trade. I' ve also
seen this same lawyer come up and tell you that you
need, you will be recalled, that the recall is
that
correct. That is ( inaudible) that is not what the
discussion. You did not ask ( inaudible). The motion
that the other ( inaudible) made was to table dis-
cussion, wasn' t that what he said?
Mayor said, yes.
Mr.
you
Carlisle said, so, at the moment, you are asking,
have been given public jobs ( inaudible) we have .. ..
heard talk for quite a while.
ble) the Council has changed,
the best that you can, per,
I
this
I feel very ( inaudi-
believe you' ve done
action to give you
Ji
j
you a reasonable amount of time ( inaudible) Mrs.
Thornber ( inaudible) her talk and I would, some of
the others, perhaps we can in the future, perhaps
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some of the other Councilmen will say why they
voted to continue Mr. Walker. But what I would
at this time, you had the opportunity to let
say
the people talk, you tried to clarify those, be-
cause as Mr. Dewrell would say, bring it out into
the sunshine, I think you have done an admirable
job, and I think that your reasons have been ( in-
audible) and even if only reason is a mere dis-
1
agreement, a mere fact that you can' t work with
people, as the City Council, it is your responsi-
bility to take action who and when. President
Reagan was elected. He did not think twice about
taking someone like ( inaudible) well I' m sorry,
you' re a democrat, you' re out, we' re putting some-
one else in. We' re not going to wait 90 days,
that' s not the way of the political problems of this
world. And I really don' t think to continue with
your decision to vote on Mr. Walker, I hope that
people vote the way they voted last week ( inaudible)
and I don' t feel that your inability to discuss
things with one another makes, comes as a violation
of the Sunshine Law. Mr. Dewrell ( inaudible) under
the previous Council to fight the Firefighter' s
Union, I know this is a type of conflict of interest,
it seems to me in that area as well. I hope then
that you, you will continue to act as you have done,
and not ( inaudible).
Mayor said, I will follow with a vote on this question,
and then we will have a five minute recess. Will you
state the question again, Mr. Miller?
Mr. Miller said ( inaudible) checked with Robert' s
Rules of Order ( inaudible) and the for.mat of the
motion, I do not believe is correct. Robert' s Rules
of Order say in effect to adopt a motion to reconsider,
is immediately explained for the ( inaudible) question
on which the vote is to be reconsidered in the exact
position ( inaudible) long before it was voted on
originally. The appropriate motion would be to move
the resolution which was passed on July 6th in Council
inaudible) motion should be made consistent with the
action I believe ( inaudible). Thank you.
Mr. Franklin said, Mr. Grant, since you originally
read this motion, would you like to read this reso-
lution?
1 Mr.
Mr.
suggest
Grant
Miller
the
to
said, alright.
said, the resolution ( inaudible) I would
Mayor that we do away with, as you' re
aware that ( inaduble) that should be the! motion should
be item, should be seconded, and the other motion
should be withdrawn.
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Mr. Grant said, what other motion should be?
Mr. Miller said, the one you made.
Mr. Grant said, oh, okay, I thought that was what
I was doing.
Mr. said, Madame Mayor, at this time I
Franklin
move thatresolution which we adopted last
the
Monday night, July 6, 1981, that at this time we
consider that resolution.
Mayor asked for a second.
Mr. Franklin said, we move.
Mayor asked for a second.
Mr. Franklin said, we move adoption of that resolu-
tion.
It was asked, what is that resolution, for the re-
cord?
Mr. Franklin said, Resolution Number 81- 23.
Mayor said, it has been seconded by Mr. Grant and
will you vote by name please?
Mr. Baughman: Yes
Mr. Grant: Yes
Mrs. Thornber: Yes
Mr. Bishop: No.
Mr. Sundy: No.
Mr. Miller: No.
Mr. Franklin: Yes
Mayor called a five minute recess.
Mayor reconvened the meeting at 10: 40 p. m.
Mr. Miller said order, Madame Mayor,
a point of in
reference to the last motion.
before makingMr.
Franklin seconded, or of the previous motion that
failed, so the last motion to pass was not in order
due to there being a pending
