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MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
OF THE CITY OF FORT WALTON BEACH, FLORIDA
FEBRUARY 4, 1991
INTRODUCTION
CALL TO ORDER
UTILITIES
A Budget Task Force workshop meeting of the City Council
of Fort Walton Beach, Florida, was held on Monday,
February 4, 1991, at 4:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers
at City Hall, with the following members present:
Councilmen: J. C. "Buck" Smith
Sidney Rosenbaum
C. Thomas Maney
Nick Nicholson
Absent:
Mayor William J. Roberts, III
Councilmen: Jim Wyatt, Mayor Pro Tempore
David deVaux
Cissy Wyninegar
Also Present: Chuck Keeler, City Manager; Helen
Spencer, City Clerk; Charles Evans, Finance Director;
media
Mr. Smith called the Budget Task Force workshop meeting
to order to discuss and explore the potential of owning
and leasing utilities.
The City Manager first noted he provided copies of the
results received on the utility survey sent to 27
municipal owned power systems in the State of Florida.
He then introduced Charlie Shreve, Executive
Vice-President of Florida Municipal Electric
Association, who is present to speak on municipal owned
electric utilities.
Mr. Shreve first gave a brief history on his background
experience with municipal utilities and information on
the functions of the Association, which include,
lobbying in Tallahassee with the Florida Legislature,
and some lobbying in Congress; regulatory representation
with the Florida Public Service, and to a lesser extent,
with the Department of Revenue, the Department of
Environmental Regulation, and the Department of Natural
Resources; educational programs for the employees of
municipal systems; annual conferences; workshops for
engineering and operating personnel, communication, and
energy conservation personnel; and a strong safety group
among the municipal systems, as well as a safety and
awards program.
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Mr. Shreve next spoke briefly about the possibility of
purchasing the facilities of Guif Power that serve Fort
Walton Beach, and gave an overview of the issues to be
considered in purchasing a facility, the expertise
needed to determine where the City is, where they want
to be, and how much money it will take to get there, as
well as the political issue to be considered. Some of
the points covered included; if the City had a very
strong financial water and sanitary sewer system, and
ean afford to buy the electric system, it might be a
good deal; it would then give the City the ability to
make their own decision as to the level of rate, to set
the rules and regulations, and set the deposit for the
electric system customers as well as for the water and
sanitary sewer system customers; it would give the
opportunity to share employees between departments; it
would require some considerable work on the City's part
and on the part of a consultant to determine what the
company's facilities, within the corporate limits, are
worth; in order to initiate discussion, the City has to
know how many dollars they are talking about and will
want to have a consultant make an appraisal of the
system to tell the City what they would have to do in
order to isolate the facility to serve Fort Walton
Beach, and the City would have to determine where a
point of service would be established; then the City
would have to have someone tell the City whether they
can afford to make the payments on the debt; and it will
take a good bond rating in order for the City to borrow
enough money. The other side of the question is
political, and perhaps the strongest obstacle the City
would have to overcome, such as the length of years the
company has served the area, as well as the concern of
corporate officials over the possibility of diminished
returns on their investments.
Foliowing some questions, discussion ensued which
included the definition of municipal utilities and their
overall operation, the franchise agreement, the need of
a consultant to determine the worth of a facility, and
the possible need of an arbitrator to make the final
determination on the fair market value.
During discussion on the arbitration process, Tony
Mallini, of Gulf Power, said they are not going to be
willing to sell; but what they would do, if the City
decided they definitely wanted to buy and they cannot
agree on a figure, then it would go to arbitration; the
fair market value would have to be determined, and
probably in that business fair market value would be
more closely related to replacement cost than book cost.
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UTILITIES (CONT. ) Following a few more questions and discussion on the
arbitration process, as well as the need for continued
growth and expansion in order to operate at a profit,
Mr. Shreve expressed appreciation for the opportunity to
address Council and offered his availability to answer
additional questions that may arise in the future.
ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting adjourned
at 5:15 p.m.
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