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MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
OF THE CITY OF FORT WALTON BEACH, FLORIDA
JANUARY 9, 2007
INTRODUCTION
A Council Workshop Meeting of the
City Council of Fort Walton Beach, Florida, was held on Tuesday,
January 9, 2007 at 5: 30 p. m. wth the following members present:
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Councilmen: Mike Holmes, Bill Patterson, Bob Campbell (
Mayor Pro Tem), Jim Tucker, Dr. Wayne
Pullen, Jim Hartwell, and Mike Minich
Absent: Mayor Mike Anderson
Also Present: Joyce Shanahan, City
Manager; Helen Spencer, City Clerk; Lisa Absher, Finance
Director; Toni Craig, City Attomey; and Department Directors
CALL TO ORDER
The Mayor Pro Tem called the
meeting to order.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Mayor Pro Tem led in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
QUESTION ON PARLEMENTARY PROCEDURE
Mr. Minich questioned whether the next two
agenda items should be on both the Council workshop
agenda and the regular Council meeting agenda. He expressed his understanding that if an item
requires an action by Council then it should not be on a workshop agenda; and if it is not for Council
action, he questioned why it is on the next
agenda. He believed both items should be removed from
the workshop agenda and requested a
ruling from the Chair.
The City Attomey stated during a
workshop the Council does not make a decision and it is within the
Chairs prerogative as to whether there will be discussion on the items.
There was some discussion on whether or not the items should be discussed at the
workshop or at
the regular Council meeting.
Mr. Minich requested a ruling from the Chair.
The Mayor Pro T em expressed his belief the items should not be
brought up in a workshop then voted
on at the regular Council
meeting tonight as Council should ha\e more time to look at it.
The City Attomey stated it is not really an issue of
parliamentary procedure because of the fact that
workshops are really not designated in Roberts Rules of Order, but once Council is in the workshop
they are. She commented what she is hearing is that if there is not proper wording of the agenda item
then it does leave a question on why it is there. She said if the
agenda item is presented to the City
r" Manager and it is not requesting an action, then she would construe that simply a discussion matter
and it is not an action matter until it is further defined in the
regular agenda. She said having them
back to back does create a problem because Council has not had time to formulate
what action, if
any, may be necessary. She said at this point it is up to Council whether or not to discuss the items
and go forward with the agenda as it is.
Mr. Tucker moved to accept the two items on the
workshop agenda and move forward with the
agenda. Mr. Patterson seconded motion and it carried
by a vote of 4 to 2 with Holmes,
Patterson, Tucker, and Pullen in favor and Hartwell and Minich
opposed.
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FEES FOR STUDENT TENNIS AND GOLF TEAMS
Discussion on fees for student tennis and golf teams.
Dr. Pullen expressed his belief there should not be a
discrepancy between what is charged for
different teams, that the same fees charged to tennis team members should be
charged to golf team
members. He mentioned other sport teams
pay a fee and questioned why the school student teams
should not pay a fee. He expressed his opinion that if student teams are
charged to play tennis then
they should also pay to play golf. He wished to know Council' s thoughts. He also noted the
resolution that established it is ten }ears old and they should be reviewed periodically.
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Mr. Minich mentioned that the golf teams have an informal
arrangement for the students to perform
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volunteer work at the golf course and the teams
play on a course at a time when it would not displace
any business.
Mr. Tucker questioned whether the tennis
players perform any clean up work. Mr. Minich stated the
tennis players pay a fee but do not do any work, and the
golf teams do not pay a fee but do volunteer
work instead.
Mr. Holmes questioned if a problem has been
presented or any complaints made. The City Manager
stated she is unaware of any problems with
regard to either the tennis or the golf club but the Golf
Club Administrator may be able to speak on VIkIether there have been
any issues at the golf club.
Jim Frazier, Golf Club Administrator, first asked the
Mayor Pro Tem his experience when he played on
the Choctawhatchee High School Golf Team.
The Mayor Pro Tem stated the golf team helped in various different
ways plus he paid to learn tennis
at the tennis center and never
helped pick up balls or pick weeds and thought it was a very fair
system. He said he has not received any complaints about the tvttO different aspects.
Mr. Frazier said during 2006
approximately $ 10, 000 was spent by junior golfers on the golf course,
that everyone pays their fair share and the
practice sessions are the only time they can play free. He
did not see a problem at the golf course.
Dr. Pullen commented he
brought up the issue for discussion and if everyone is happy with the way it
is then he will withdraw it from the Council
regular agenda.
FEES FOR SECURITY SYSTEMS
Discussion on fees for security systems.
Dr. Pullen stated he brought up the item because he has been
thinking about what was done when
the Ordinance was passed to start
registering security systems. He felt it is a disservice to the people
who take the initiative to protect themselves and rather than
discouraging people to install a system
that they should be encouraged to install a
security system. He understood the concern with false ~
alarms and had no objection but did not think
they needed to register the systems for the Police
Department to track as another employee may be needed and it would be an unnecessary expense
f ~~ City. He suggested the current ordinance can be amended or
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simply be f\
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It was questioned whether there is a
problem with false alarms and whether the ordinance needed to
be amended.
The City Manager stated there was an issue about false alarms in
2005 and the Police Chief is
working on an amendment to the ordinance because there are some aspects that seem counter-
productive.
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FEES FOR SECURITY SYSTEMS cont.
Ted Litschauer, Police Chief,
explained the ordinance which addressed several issues was set to be
put into place during the 2006 calendar year. He said the
resources, and there is an allowance of
primary one, false alarms, is a drain on the
three alarms within a 12 month
period with no charge. He
explained the reason the police want a registration is so
they have emergency contact information and
by having an annual registration it would force
people to update their information. He said a
registration fee is unfair because an alarm system in a home or a business is not
propose that it be changed to require the
required. He would
registration for the information and require the annual
renewal so the information is not more than one
year old, but eliminate the $ 50. 00 initial registration
fee and $ 25. 00 annual fee and retain the
provision that if
