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reduced, becaufe it is a much larger
fum than the wants of the union require ; but 1 cannot
flatter myfelf into fuch a belief, 13,000,000 of dollars is
too great a fum to be expected, even if all the powers and
exertions of Congrefs were drawn into aftion. But let us
examine what may be the wants of the United States dur-
ing the current year. The expence on the civil lift cannot
be eiiimated with accuracy for want of an eftablifliment of
the various departments, but it will probably equal the ex-^
pence of the late Congrefs, if you conceive the members of
the Legiflature to be paid out of the Federal Treafury ;
add to this the fums ftated to be arrearages by an eflimate
I have feen from the board of treafury, it will amount to
4,507,000 dollars ; then the inftallments of the foreign debt
together with intercft on the fame, and intereft on the do-
meltic debt, for which provifion remains to be made, will
probably encreafe it to 8,000,000 dollars ; now if gentle-
men apprehend v/e fhall raife more revenue than that fum^
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within the current year, it will operate as a llrpng motive
upon them to vote for the reduction of the duties, and if
gentlemen fuppofe that the duty is fo high upon rum as to
convince them it will inevitably be evaded, it will be a
fufficient argument to induce them to vote for the prefent
motion.
The colleiflion of our revenue has been compared to the
colleftion of Great Britain, but (he collects 4s. fterling per
gallon on Wefl-India rum, 6 times as much as we have a-
greed to, and yet I believe a very unimportant quantity of
Jamaica fpirit is fmuggled into that kingdom ; the fmug-
gling trade is moftly carried on from France and the Ne-
therlands in fmall veiTels, where the rifk and alFurance is in-
confiderable ; I believe large vefTels are very feldom con-
cerned in fuch contraband trade, becaufe the hazard more
than over balances every confideration of profit refulting
from fuccefs. The circumftances of America and Britain
are different ; America is remote from commercial nations,
and European goods that are made dutiable by this law,
muft generally be imported in veiTels of confiderable value ;
if the owner attempts to fave a part of the duties or evade
the laws, he will riHc the whole, for I truft Congrefs will
not negledl any fecurity that may be derived from fufficient
penalties upon the violators of the laws. For my part I
nave no doubt but the revenue will be faithfully collefted,
but certainly there are many other articles more liable to
objection on this account than rum, yet there was noadverfe
argument urged againft them, therefore I fuppofe the com-
mittee were fatisiied with them as they fland.
Mr. Ames.
The gentleman from Pennfylvania fat out with inform-
ing us, that nothing new had or could be offered on the
fubjeft, yet you found, Mr. Chairman, the gentleman had
a good deal to fay, which I thought new and much to the
purpofe. As to applying the observation to myfelf, in
common with the advocates for low duties, I Ihall decline it,
only noting that the long difcuinon which the fubjecl; has
had, would reifrain me from riiing on this occafion, more
than any remarks of the fame nature, as thole made by the
gentlemen from Pennlylvaiiia and Conne6licut ; but I am
actuated by higher motives than a regard to my own feel-
ings, otherwife I fhould come reluctantly forward to preis
arguments which the committee may be fatigued with liften-
ing to; but I feel fuch ftrong impreHions on my mind, with
regard to the elfccT:s our impoft la ,v is likely to produce, that
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I cannot pafs it over with a {ilent vote
A^iji^
I mufl: admonillij
gentlemen, that the events which may rei'ult from our pre-
feuc mcafures, are of the moft alarming nature. When I was
up before, I endeavoured to fhew the degree of power the
government could exercife without being charged with an ill
adminiilration. I Ihall now proceed briefly to confider the
arguments ui'ed in reply to what has been advanced by the
advocates for moderate duties. I believe it is a good rule
to judge of the ftrengch of a caufe by the arguments uled
to defend it ; and here I muft- take the liberty of laying,
that the gentlemen on the other fide of the queftion have
adduced not one to fupport their opinion that has car-
ried convi(5lion to my mind. I confider that by a decifion
of this queftion the good which the new government is
expected to produce may be rendered problematical. Tho'
I am fully iinpreiled with the necelTity there is for revenue
to fuppiy the public expences, yet I cannot believe we are
likely to obtain more by heavy duties than by temperate
ones, and it is to this point which iiiy arguments tend.
I do not believe that in either cafe we ihall procure fully
fufficient to fupply the public demands. If we have to pro-
cure 8,000,000 dollars, I venture to fay, not near the half
could be raifed by an iinpoll fyftem, but admitting that it
could by a high fcale of duties for the iirfi: year, it could
not be done in the fubfequent ones. Now I regard thio as
a permanent fyilem of revenue, rather than a productive
one ; if it is laid high, you will find your collection animal-
ly diminilh. Now, will any government take fuch mea-
fures in gathering in its harvelt, as to ruin the foil ? will
they rack-rent their tenants in fuch a manner as to de-
prive them of the means of improving the eftate ? Such
can never be the policy of this enlightened country. We
know, from the fundamental principles of republics, that
public opinion gives the tone to every aftion of the govern-
ment, the lavv s ought to correfpond with the habits and
manners, nay, I may almoft add, willies of the people.
Well, Mr. Chairman, we are told a tax: upon rum is po-
pular, I will agree with the gentlemen, but iliil a high duty
will induce people to run it, and though the confuuier may
pay the tax without complaining, yet it will go into the
pockets of iiiJividuals who defiMud your revenue. Gen-
tlemen have complained that we do not offer a fubllitute
for what we find lault with, I will endeavour to explain
a fyftem I would place in the roo;n of this. I would re-
duce the duties "cnLTallv fo low as to hold out no encou-
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ragement to fmiiggling ; in this cafe, it is more than pro-
bable, the amount of the impoft, at tlie end of one year,
would exceed the colledlion under the prefent rate. By
givhig this proof of moderation and wildom, v/e Ihouki
obtain the public favour and confidence, the government
would be acquiring ftrength, its movements would be more
certain, and we could in every fubfequent year extend the
fyftein, and make the whole productive ; then it would be
in the power of government, by aids, to improve our agri-
culture, m a nu failures, and commerce. Our imports are
now very great ; by the encreafe of our commerce^ we fhall
probably find our revenue produce twice as much feven
years hence as it can be expected to do at prefent.
The duty on Welt-India rum is moderate and popular
fay gentlcn^en, it is nst the intereft of MaiTachuffets that id
fhould be reduced ; fo I am arguing againft the intereil of
the ftate I have the honor to reprefent ; the higher the
duty on Welf-India rum the more country rum will be
uied ; but I fhould facrifice the facred trull depofitcd in my
hands if 1 was to be aduated by a local motive of this na-
ture. The higher the duty the more officers mud be mul-
tiplied, the more guards muft be employed, the more troops
miifl be kept in pay for the fip.ircllion of clandeftine trade.
Under higli duties the people wili pay m'.i.ch, the government
receive little. Vv'ill they not then juftly complain of the
ufelefs burthens you have impoied ? ufelefs I call them, un-
lefs government have in coniemplation to make them con-
ducive to opprefs and injure their confticuents. If you
punilh feverely the breach of yo\ir laws, v/ill not the peo-
ple combine agaiiitt th>°m ? will it not be an additional
fource of dillatisiaftion that the attempts to relieve
them are unfuccefslul ? If gentlemen confider this fub-
jeft ferioufly they will fee caufe to be alarmed : Who,
in this cafe, can you apply to for fupport? not to the peo-
ple, they want an alleviation of their miferies ; you have
then noching left but the impotency of a government not
fuiSciently matured to fupport itfelf.
Gentlemen fay, that the funds to be produced by the
propofed impoft are infufficient for the public demands ; if
{o, why not flop fomewhat ihorter? if we muft have re-
courfe to fome other mode of obtaining revenue, let us
divide the burthen, and not deftroy one mean by loading
it too heavily, if we do, the other mean will not only have
its own proportion to fuilain, but the accumulation of its
weakened fellow ; or, do gentlemen fuppofe they -will
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clear the United States of incumberances by one effort i-~^
they do not. W hy are we to grafp at fo much in this way i
itwould be much better to call in the aid of other taxes
and exciles, than by overloading deprefs one ot the molt
capable and valuable funds in our pofTeffion. Under the
Britilh government they have excife, Itamp-duties, impoll,
malt, and land tax from which to defray their expences ;
v.'hy ihou'.d we endeavour to do that with a fmgle fund
when we have more in our power?
The gentleman from Pennfylvania (Mr. Fitzlimons) has
mentioned the great probability there is of getting a great
duty from this article, becaufe the confumption is more ex-
tenfive in the United States than in any other part of the
world ; but this circumrtance will furnilh a Itrong induce-
ment to fmuggle. lie fays there is but a fniall quantity of
rum fniuggled into England. Gentlemen no doubt con.
lider, that Great Britain is an ifland well watched, her
cutters, and cuitom-houfe boats, are ever on the look-out,
but, v.ith all thefe guards, and the advantage of her infular
fituation, fhe is unable to prevent fmugghng.
it has been reniarked^ that under the (tate laws experi-
ence has taught us, that fuch duties as the bill has in con-
templaii.'.i ca.i be collected ; and the genrlenipn fays, if
they be collected under the (late laws, they can be colkdled
lender this govej-nment ; if they have been able to colled:
high duties in Virginia, it is becaule their trade is confined
to enter. at one channel ; bi^t it is not fo with the eallern
itdtes, there every attempt to raife high duties has prov^ed
ioiHiloal • and the univerfiil opinion there is, that five per
cent, would be more pfoducT:ive of revenue than fifty ;
this is not mere niatter of opinion^ as has been faid, but
is demonltrable from fad:s.
The principle of taxation is to produce the greateft fum
of money, with the greatefl eafe to the community If a
gentleman in trade has on hand a cargo of rum, he is able
to afford it at a lefs price than the perfon who imports it,
fiibjectto ihele duties, therefore the latter w ill be under the
liecedity of fmugghng, or Itoring his commodities, for he
cannot afford to fell to a lofs, A. gentleman has mention-
ed, that if we do not iucceed in the collecT:ion ot thefe
duties, we may lower them. But will any gentleman fay,
that if we lofe our duty, by the eitabliihment of a fyftem
of friiuggling, that we ihall not continue to lofe after the
law fiiall be repealed, and a lower rate of duties impoled.
If gentlemen depend upon this fund alone, 1 think they
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ouirht not to
