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competition, even if we exert ourfelves to
the utmoft. 1 faid before, and repeat it now, that we
draw great advantages from our commerce with England,
which we run the riik of looting without an objeft: wor-
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thy the facrifice We are admitted into their ports on
terms more favorable than any other nation ; articles
brought from America do not pay the duty, to which the
iike are fubj eft from other parts of the globe, which is n
fource of coniiderable benefit to our commerce. If my in-
formation is right, our vefTels are admitted to their
ports in the Ealt-Indies, this trade is likely to become
of the greatell importance to the United States. We
not only have vefiels that anfwer this branch of com-
merce, but furnifli conftderable produce for carrying it on.
I am told, that there are not Icis than 47 vclTels at this
time on voyages to the countries beyond the Cape of Good
Hope. This trade may be materially affefted by the policy
of the Britifli nation, which has an amazing influence in that
quarter of the world. I truft no friend to the navigation
of America will purfue meafures deilruftive of this trade ;
it is the only one to compenfate us for our lols of the
Weft-India trade, and yet the regulations of Britain may
efienrially injure us in that quarter. Upon the whole,
1 WQuld recomn^end temper and moderation to the houfe It
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they find thefe will not or are not fufficient to produce the
efted they contemplate, then take the mode now propofed,
it can then be done with more propriety than at prefent
Thefe are the hafty thoughts which have occurred to my
mind againft the meafure ; and I beg gentlemen to believe,
that I am adluated only by the pureft motives for n)y coun-
try's good, in oppofmg what I confider as prejudicial to
her intereft. I wi(h my country to do thofe aftions which
I am certain will reflect honor upon her councils, and bring
to her fons that happinefs which we are bound by duty to
labor for. I would not have her, at her entrance into life,
fliew an intemperate difpofition, or do any thing which flic
might have caufe to repent of hereafter. ^
Mr. Madison.
I conceive, Mr. Speaker, that we muil confider this as a
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general queflioti involving thefe points How far it is ex-
pedient, at this time, to make a difcrimination between
foreign nations and the United States, for the purpofe of
promoting and accelerating the improvement of the Ameri-
can navigation ? and how far it is expedient to make fuch
a difcrimination between foreigners, as may induce them
to permit us to extend our own navigation on principles of
reciprocity ? for I imagine thefe fubjedls will be found to
be connefted. The arguments offered againft the meafure
are founded on a maxim of impolicy. It is ftated, that as
we have not got vefTels enough of our own to tranfport
the produce of the country, and as this produce fells low,
we ought not to enter into regulations that will encreafe
the price of freight ; the plain meaning of which I take to
be, let us employ thofe veflels that will do our bufinefs
cheapeft, making no kind of difcrimination whatever : If
this argument has weight it goes againft difcriminating in
favor of our own Hiipping. 1 admit, that laying 50 cents
on foreign veflels and but fix on our own, is a regulation
by which the owners of Americxin fliipping will put a cot;i.
fiderable part of the diiierence into their pockets. This,
Sir, I confider as a facrifice of intereft to policy, thefacri-
fice is but fmall, but I fliould not contend for it, if we
did ftand iii need of maritime improvements ; was it not
for the neceflity we are under of having fome naval
ftrength, I (hould be an advocate for throwing wide o-
pen the doors of our commerce to all the world, and
making no kind of difcrimination in favor of our own
citizens —But we have maritime dangers to guard a-
gainft, and we can be fecured from them no other way.
i?4 P £ 3 A T E 5 A. ij-Sg-
jhan by having a n^vy and feainen of our own, thefc
cgn oiily be obtajped by giving ^ preferen/ce. I admit it
is 3 tax, and a tax uppn oyr produce, but it is a taji
Vve muftpay for tl),e natipnal fecyrity-r^I recorpile it to the
iHte reft of the IJnifed States, that this facrifice fliould be
made: by it we ^hali be able to provide the meaps of defence,
and by being prepared to repel danger, i§ the moft likely
way to avoid it This tax therefore may prevent the hor-
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ror of a war, ?gd feeyf e to us that j-efp^dl gn^ attention
which we merit.
I am a friend to tlje navigation of Arperka, and Ihall be
always ready to go as great lengths in favor of that intereft
as any gentleman on this floor — I have in contemplation to
propofe a diftant time to be fixed, at which thefe high du-
ties on toipi;iage fliall begin to operate ; by uhich means the
interefts of that part ot the community, employing foreign
{hipping, will be unaifecled for the prefent, and the other
part will have time to encreafe its tonnage, foasto anfwer
for tlie tranfportation of the produce of all America.
With relation to the difcrinnnation propofed to be made
between foreigners, I think nothing new has been ofFeredi
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now it has not been denied, and therefore I take it to be
tacitly admitted, that the public fentiments are friendly to
fuch a difcriminatipn as is propofed. I do not think it ne-
cefiary therefore to relate particularly feme fafts which
would have fliewn that almofl: all the ftates in the uiiion
have nianifelted their opinion on this fubjeft, and decide
that a difcrimi)iation ought to be made, and ought to oper-
ate particularly oii Great Britain. A difcrimination of this
kind firft appeared in New-Hampfliire, the influence of its
example expanded the whole extent of the union, and ftate
after ftatc adopted regulations for the falutary purpofe of
checking a power that was monopolizing our trade but —
finding, from fatiguing experience, that their feparate ef-
forts were ineffectual, they united in forming the govern-
ment under which we deliberate. I will not fay only, thac
if in the flrO; act of Congrefs we aboliili this favorite dif-
tinclion, we difappoint the expeftations of the warmefl
friends and advocates of the conltirution, but we fliall alfo
difappoint the expectaiioris of its enemies and the people of
Britain.
The policy manlfelted by that nation toward us fince the
revolution imuII evince lo every thinking mind, the necef-
fity of extending our commerce to other channels, and no
longer fuffer ..her tpjegnlateand limit us ijy this particular :
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The policy of her parliament has been on the watch to
feize every advanrage which our weak and unguarded firu-
ation expoied, (he has bound us in coTnmercial manacleSj
and very nearly defeated the objedl of our independence.
We all know there wa, a tnne when Britain ihfewed jt
dlfpofition to form the treaty we wilh for ; this rjjfulted
from an appt-ehenlion, that the United States pbflefled both
the power and inclination to do themfelves juftice. The
moment Ihe difcuvered we had not the povver to perform
our contracts, her difpofltion changed. Now, for my part,;
I can difcover ho motive for that nation to alter its condiidt;
if now that we have the power we want the inclination.
She will perfevere in her felfifh iritereft and narrow policy,
to exclude us from a reciprocal ihare of trade ; they will
continue the ability to the executive magiltrate to regulate
^he interconrfe by cifcomftances as they arrive, but ever-
ftudious of their own intereft alone. The gentlen^an from
New-York feems to apprehend, that if we commence com-
mercial hollilities, we ihall fuffer by rcphfals. For my
part^ I am not dfraid of fuffering in the conteft; her in-
terefts can be wounded almoft mortally, while ours are
invulnerable. She is fenfible of this ; and the people of
America are not unacquainted with the natural advantages
poHefTed over her— if it was necefTary, and means of a paci-
llc nature Were not immediately fuccefsful, America could
defend herfelf. Suppofe Great Britain not pleafed with
our regulation, but difpofed to counteract and oppofe us
with other reftriCtions, and we proceed to do each other all
the injury which commercial prohibitions can produce —
which, let me aflc, of the parties are moft vulnerable?
How we could fuftain our wounds I will not fay, thofe
who know oiJr country well <vill hstve but little uneafinefs
on that head ; but though 1 do not fay how we could fuf-
tain our wounds, I can point out how v/e coa'd inflict moft
deadly ones. If we were to fay, that no article ihould be
exported from America to the Weft -Indies, but what went
in our own bottoms, we fliould foon hear a different lan-
guage from any that has ever been held out to us on the
fubjedt of commercial regulations. It may be faid, thcJ
Britifh Weft- Indies could draw fupplies from the mother
country ; but this is only precarious, there are always
times when they muft be dependent upon us, even for the
necellary fubliilance to fave them from deftruction.
Now, let me alk, what article it is that we are depend
dent upon Great Britain for, thati? necelTary for our fub-.
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liftance ?If it be faid there are articles of convenience we
iBull have from her, I beg gentlemen to look round and ob*
ferve, that thoi'e materials for manufaftures which Ihe fup-
plies us with, and fabricates in the highell perfeftion, are
to be found ia the United States, and within thefe few
years wt have made rapid advances in manufaduring our-
ielves ; tfiis mull: eventually leiTen the imports from Britain,
and her independent fituation ariles from the flourilhing
condition of her manufaclures and commei^ce ; I have there-
fore no fears of entering in a commercial warfare with
iliat nation,- if fears are to be entertained they lay on the
other lide. I could go more largely into this fubjeft, and
demonltrate clearly that we have infinite advantages over
her. Even at tliis moment we hear the cry of diftrefs from
one part of her dominions, which can only be relieved by
rhe relonrces they have in this country. But 1 will not
take up the time of the committee longer on this fubjeft,
nor dilate upon the nature and extent of the direft trade
tarried on between foreigners and us, and the circuitous
one through Great Britain, from which ihe derives great
advantages; nor ihew the eomp^rative motives we have
for maknig a difcriminatioa between her and other fo-
reign nation. Whale oil is prohibited in Britain, at leaft
iubjefled to a duty amounting to a prohibition ; but it is
admitted into France. I need not remark the value which
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we ought to fet upon this part of our commerce- fiflieries
are perhaps the beii nurferics for Teamen of any employment
whatever. Rr:£ is aUo an article received by them, and
enters conliderably into the conlnmption of the people ;
thefe articles are making their way through that country,
and will open a conliderable vent for the furplus that we
have, in this point of view, it is important not to take any
fteps tliat ciietk that I'pirit which leems dilpoled to favor
tlie conimcree and interetls of America. I'obacco is alio
confumed in conliderable quantities in France undoubted-
;
ly it is our mtereit that a direct trade ihould be carried on
with that
