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MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
OF THE CITY OF FORT WALTON BEACH, FLORIDA
FEBRUARY 13, 2007
INTRODUCTION
A Council Workshop Meeting of the City Council of Fort Walton Beach, Florida, was held on Tuesday,
February 13, 2007 at 5: 30 p. m. wth the following members present:
Councilmen: Mike Holmes, Bill Patterson, Bob Campbell, Jim Tucker, Dr. Wayne Pullen, Jim Hartwell,
and Mike Minich
Also Present: Joyce Shanahan, City Manager; Helen Spencer, City Clerk; Lisa Absher, Finance
Director; Toni Craig, City Attomey; and Department Directors
CALL TO ORDER
The Mayor called the meeting to order.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Mayor led in the Pledge of Allegiance.
PURPOSE OF MEETING- IMPACT FEES
The Mayor announc;ed the purpose of the meeting was to discuss placing the City Library up for sale.
Mr. Minich moved to suspend Roberts Rules of Order forthe remainder of the Workshop. Mr.
Tucker seconded motion and it carried unanimously with Holmes, Patterson, Campbell,
Tucker, Pullen, Hartwell, and Minich in favor.
Mr. Tucker acknowledged that the library has been an asset to the downtown as property values have
risen and more businesses want to come in downtown. He voiced his belief that the current location
is not appropriate for a . library and thought the library should be put where it would be to the
advantage of not just the downtown but to all the citizens. He expressed his desire that Council have
an opportunityto readjust the library location and asked the City Attorney if it would be legal to declare
the property excess and sell it.
The City Attorney replied it is the ordinance that declares how to declare property excess. She said
the property is currently being used for a public purpose and the public purpose would have to be
changed to-satisfy the ordinance. She said the ordinance can be changed but in her opinion at this
time it cannot be declared excess unless something different is done with the property first.
Mr.Tucker wished to know if it is within the control of the majority of Council to sell the property once
it is done according to law. The City Attorney said she has not reviewed the deed to determine if
there are any deed restrictions on it and she would have to research that.
Mr. Tucker made the assumption that with the consent of Council that the property can be declared
excess and then sold. He mentioned two phone calls he received with interest in purchasing the
property. He then commented he would like to see the library located to the west of the auditorium,
slightly set back and with a view of the Sound Park. He mentioned he did not like the current location
as it is awkward to get to and he would not want his grandchildren to ride their bikes to get to it, and if
he could plan on receiving a second, he will bring it up at the regular meeting tonight.
Mr. Minich renewed his objection to having any item placed on a workshop followed by the City
Council meeting.
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LIBRARY LOCATION cant.
Mr. Hartwell asked the City Attorney when a poor business decision is made and they want to correct
that decision, if declaring .the property excess was the only vehicle available.
The City Attorney stated the question about relocation would clear up the issue of whether or not it is
excess property. She said the Code requires that property cannot be declared excess unless there is
no intended, or planned or current governmental public purpose for the City. She said it is the only
way the City can sell property but if the library is relocated and the library is not there, then it may be
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excess or it could be used for another
governmental purpose.
The Mayor requested clarification with his understanding that the property is now currently a public
purpose and to declare it excess the City has to find a new location for it and therefore declare it is no
longer needed for public purpose at its current location.
The City Attorney replied she was not conditioning that, she believed Mr. Tucker' s discussion
conditioned it because he made the comment regarding relocation to a place west of the auditorium,
so in thatscenario it would clear up the excess property issue. She said if,Council is just looking at it
today and put it on the market today, it is her opinion, as with other city properties, that unless Council
can say it has no government public purpose then it cannot be declared excess
by the Code.
Mr. Hartwell wished to know if they are stuck with the decision they made unless they can declare that
previous action excess. The City Attorney stated as with any legal scenario the facts change
depending on where and when they are dealing with it, as there is no absolute answer that covers
every si'ngle piece of property. She said if the City has a piece of property with an abandoned building
or not used and the City decides to sell it to use it for rehabilitation or affordable housing then it would
still, perhaps, maintain a public purpose and it would, not have to be declared excess. She said if the
City were actually going to transfer title to a private partythat has no public purpose for it, then the first
step in the ord.inance is to declare that it has no public purpose. She said the relationship of whether
or not it was a good decision when it was made is irrelevant because as they move forward things
change, the facts change, and there could have been a planned purpose for a piece of property that
has now changed.
Mr. Hartwell commented he was not saying it was a bad decision, but that in general if the facts
change then they can go back and make corrections or modifications.
Dr. Pullen asked ifitwas State law or the ordinances on excess property. The City Attorney stated
the excess property is only by the Code. Dr. Pullen received confirmation that Council could change
the ordinance: He then wished to know if the City could swap the property for a library built to their
specifications. The City Attorney was unable to answer that question. She said Council can change
the ordinance, it is not an issue of State law and in her opinion the ordinance restricts Council from
what State law allows them to do. Dr. Pullen commented that Council is only restricted by what they
have ~ nd can change it to fit the needs of the community or for the betterment of the community. The
City Attorney reminded Council as she has said before she would never suggest or advise they make
a change in an ordinance to address one issue; if there is. a lot of property that could be subject to
some change of use and then declared excess, then she would suggest they go through the proper
process with the staff to determine that and make the change consistently with the ordinance for all ..
properties~
Mr. Patterson expressed his understanding that the City would have to have another piece of
property, consider building another library and transferring the use of that property before itwould be
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excess. The City Attorney replied that is assuming the City wants to maintain a library. Mr. Patterson
commented then that as long as it is in use with no piece of property on the horizon with an estimate
of construction, etc., then it cannot be declared access until all the process starts because th~ re is no
movement toward a new building. ..
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LIBRARY LOCATION cont.
Mr. Patterson expressed his understanding that an orderly process would have to be set up for it to
take place with an appraisal on the property to determine the fair market value and determine the
construction cost of a new library to make sure what the property is sold for would cover the cost of
building a new library. The City Attomey stated it would need to be more expanded, and it may need .
to be accomplished through the Vision Plan so the City would know that the citizens want to change ~
the entire venture of the downtown area and it would be a larger planning process. She said at any'
time Council can choose to change an ordinance to get rid of a piece of property, or to simply get rid ,.
of a piece of property if there is no public purpose for it. .
Mr. Patterson expressed his understanding that right now the library stands and there is a public
purpose for it and there is no schedule replacement for the library, so it cannot be declared excess
until a process is set forward to build a new building because then they would be showing the intent
for it to be access. The City Attomey replied in the affirmative.
Mr. Minich expressed it is a bad idea as the library is part of a plan that has helped to restore
downtown to be a vital area of the City, and it was said at a GRA meeting that it is one of the critical
elements to doing a restoration of a downtown area.
The Mayor commented he thought that the process would have been someone s'aying the library is in
a bad location, it is not good there; and if it is not good there, where is a better location; and if there is
a better location, what is the cost associated Vvith building one in a different location and the whole
process. He believed they are way ahead of taking a vote on the issue until they make a
determination it is a bad location. He did not believe that after only five years in existence it is no
longer good.
Mr. Holmes commented .it is not a bad idea and thought they need to look at it because there mayor
may not be a good option. He said it is too early to say it will not look and what needs to be decided is
whether they wa nt tQpur:sueJLal). cLif- semeeAe- te- eeme- tlp~
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Dr. Pullen expressed his thoughts that the library is in a poor location, there is no parking, it is
squeezed in, there is a beautiful building no one can see, and in the near future it will hinder the
development of downtown. He thought there is nothing wrong with exploring the idea, to put it out that
the City would be interested if someone could come up with a suggestion, and then proceed from
there.
Mr. Holmes suggested they discuss why it would be good to move it and what would be the
advantage. .
Doug Reed, 842 Santa Rosa Court, commented the.library is landlocked and both property owners on
both sides of the Library have made it clear they will not sell. He commented the library is fantastic
and is being used far beyond what was expected, but if in the future they want to expand, they are
landlocked. He said they might have an opportunity to build a bigger, better library and asked Council
to think about the fact that they are landlocked at the current location.
James Thoreen, 33 Anastasia Drive, stated the City has a library, a museum on the Indian MounQ, a
theater, but it does not have an art museum. He said an art museum in that location along with a new
library on the west side of the
