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Million to $16 Million.
Non-BCC Entities
Mr. Amunds acknowledged receipt of many letters from various
groups requesting funding from the BCC. (Copies of these
letters were not provided to BCC Records.)
Mr. Steve Czonstka, Vice-Chair for Finance for the Heritage
Museum, thanked the Board for its past support. He said like
the commissioners, the Museum’s Board of Trustees has had to
make difficult decision on ways to reduce spending. Over the
past years, county allocations have been reduced from $50,000 to
$13,500 and computer support has been cut. Mr. Czonstka said to
compensate, the Museum has ramped up fundraising activities. He
requested funding at the same level as last year.
Mr. Amunds said he believes the funding for all three Museums
(Heritage Museum, Baker Block Museum, Destin History and Fishing
Museum) should be the exact same amount. Mr. Harris said he
does not disagree but asked about a funding allocation for the
Carver Hill Museum, the only African-American Museum in the
county. He said the Board should consider doing something for
all museums. Mr. Parisot called attention to the Indian Temple
Mound Museum.
Mr. Amunds stated a letter from the Destin History and Fishing
Museum is requesting $6,480 and continued support. He said he
also received a letter from the Judge Ben Gordon Visitation
Center requesting an allocation and another one from Elder
Services. .
Mr. Jerry Melvin, President of the Board for Elder Services,
thanked the Board for continuing to offer office space in the
old Fort Walton Beach Hospital for Elder Services. He listed
the expenses associated with remodeling and repairs. Mr. Melvin
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requested not only continued monetary support but an extension
of their lease for ten years. Mr. Amunds commented that most
businesses which had a $1.00-per-year lease would not care if
they had a ten-year lease extension. He said the Board has been
very generous. Mr. Parisot added the Board also leases the two
assisted living facilities in Crestview and Niceville for $1.00
per year. Mr. Windes questioned putting money into’ the
repairs/renovations if you are not going to stay for a while.
Mr. Boyles said this organization has done as much good as any
other to provide services that would force citizens to seek from
the government in some way. He felt the Board’s investment has
generated return.
Mr. Nathan Sparks, Economic Development Council (EDC) Director,
said he is present to follow up on Interim Director Kay
Rasmussen’s request for funding. He referred to the EDC ‘and
Board’s partnership over the years. Mr. Sparks reported there
are 24 projects in various stages and they project 595 new jobs.
He continued with his presentation.
Mr. Harris agreed with the plan for diversification rather than
reliance upon the Department of Defense (DOD). He stated the
county is the largest contributor and asked for a plan to show
how the county as the largest stakeholder will benefit.
Mr. Boyles stated he is interested in giving Mr. Sparks a year
to see what he can do at his new post as EDC Director.
Mr. Parisot referred to projects given tax exemptions and asked
how many have moved forward and created jobs. Mr. Sparks
responded those are still in process. Mr. Parisot expressed
concern about slowness in “closing the deal” on these tax
abatements. Mr. Sparks replied the closing of the deal is
outside of the EDC’s control.
When Mr. Parisot spoke of cutting the allocation to $60,000, Mr.
Sparks questioned the ability to stay viable. Mr. Harris
pointed out Okaloosa County must compete with South Alabama and
Georgia. He agreed with Mr. Boyles’ suggestion to give Mr.
Sparks a year. Mr. Windes said he is not in favor of welcoming
Mr. Sparks by cutting the funding this year.
(NOTE: Mr. Parisot left at this time—9:05 p.m.)
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Okaloosa County Board of County Commissioners
RECESS - The meeting was recessed at 9:05 p.m. and reconvened at
9:15 p.m.
Mr. Amunds opened the floor for comments.
Ms. Shirley Parker, Holt, stated she wanted to address the
raising of gas taxes and the millage rate. She said many senior
citizens are living within their means and they are on a fixed
income. Ms. Parker asked the Board why it can’t live within its
means. She felt this to be double taxing seniors.
Mr. David Sherry, Okaloosa Island, again addressed the issue of
amending the Unincorporated Parks MSTU by majority vote of the
Board and called it a slippery slope. He said perhaps the MSTU
is the way to fund stormwater but the Board should go through
the front door, not the back door.
At Mr. Harris’ request, Mr. Hofstad provided additional
commentary on establishing this MSTU. He said the MSTU is the
result of a settlement agreement because of a lawsuit in the
1980s. Originally, the MSTU dealt with law enforcement services
and roads in addition to parks. Mr. Hofstad said sometime in
the 1990s the reference to law enforcement and roads was
removed. He advised they are trying to come up with a suitable
funding source for stormwater. He stated the MSTU for
Unincorporated Parks is an existing assessment and they felt it
to be a suitable revenue source for stormwater.
Mr. Sherry responded that he is not against stormwater but he is
concerned about “letting the genie out of the bottle.” Mr,
Boyles remarked that he is sensitive to the concerns which have
been voiced and it will be considered in greater detail at the
public hearing. Mr. Sherry again stated he is not against
stormwater or drawing down the reserves in this account but
concerned about the “slippery slope” of the commissioners
changing the MSTU based on what the voters agreed to.
Mr. Wendell Batey, Crestview, said he appreciates what the
department heads and the Board have done. He stated finite
dollar amounts have been assigned to needs. Mr. Batey said
government is not easy and he does not believe it was meant to
be. He stated highest costs are associated with personnel and
asked if the Board has explored contracting out services for
Mosquito Control or Parks Management.
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Mr. Amunds replied some areas have been explored, such as
lifeguard services but found the Board was held hostage by
privatizing the lifeguard program. He told Mr. Batey his point
is a valid one. Mr. Batey stated before a millage rate or gas
tax is passed, he expects the Board to turn over every leaf. He
asked how the lobbyists are helping the county.
Mr. Harris said he spoke with Mr. Stanford about unfunded
mandates from the State. He pointed out the county has
inherited $35 Million in unfunded mandates over the last four
years, saying that is more than 10% of the county budget.
Mr. Windes referred to the question about contracting out
services. He said that he has looked at what the departments do
and they save money doing things themselves. Mr. Windes stated
we have good quality people.
Mrs. Rebecca Sherry, Okaloosa Island, stated the Board paying
health insurance premiums for its employees has always been an
issue for her. She said private business has zeroed out that
contribution. Mr. Amunds replied we have different plans and
the coverage has been reduced. Mr. Boyles commented that the
overall compensation package should be taken into account.
Mr. Rob English, Laurel Hill, believed there are efficiencies
yet to be considered. He also found the budget to be difficult
to understand and lacked transparency. Mr. English stated that
everyone in government can’t have everything and went on to list
increased fees for EMS, increased taxes by the School Board, and
the federal government charging more as examples. He told the
commissioners they needed to buckle down and say no or find out
where to cut this budget.
Mr. English continued, saying it is “way out of line” for the
County Attorney to make $170,000 a year. Mr. Amunds replied the
attorney has been in government for forty years and pays his two
staff members. He noted that Mr. Dowd did not become a county
employee until about 14 or 15 years ago. Mr. Boyles added the
county does not provide office space or supplies for the County
Attorney.
Mr. Amunds advised Mr. English that staff is willing to go line-
by-line through the budget with him but he should be prepared to
set aside several hours for such a review.
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Mr. English asked why it is necessary for the county to purchase
a crane for bridge:work and asked why Walton, Santa Rosa, and
Okaloosa Counties cannot share the equipment. Mr. Amunds asked
how you would decide who would get to use the crane if there was
only one and all three counties were hit with a flood event
which destroyed bridges. He said when you need a crane, you
need a crane. Mr. Amunds pointed out the Public Works
Department for the-.last few years has weighed the option of
leasing equipment versus outright purchase.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. English if he understands this is a policy
setting board. A manager (administrator) is hired to carry out
those policies. Mr. English countered by saying “The buck stops
here. I hold you accountable.” Mr. English again insisted
there are cuts which could be made. Mr. Harris asked him how
deeply he has looked at this budget. He added the Board hoids
honorable people accountable, noting they are taxpayers in this
county too.
Mr. Windes stressed the importance of looking at the big
picture. He said $60 Million has been cut out of the budget
over the last six years, the fleet is depleted, and the
infrastructure is crumbling. Mr. Windes stated the
commissioners must figure out how to carry out their fiduciary
responsibility. He continued, saying the Board must provide
certain services and for the past six years “we have picked the
low hanging fruit” to cut the budget.
Mr. Steve Menchel, Destin, said he has been championing the
issue of changing how bed tax revenues can be used. He asked
for the commissioners to continue to work this issue. Mr.
Menchel told them they should be offended when the Legislature
does not respond to a request for help.
Mr. Jamie Smith, Laurel Hill, said now is the opportunity to
turn this back on the Legislature and to put pressure on the
legislators.
Mr. Ed Winkelseth, Panhandle Patriots Tea Party, stated there
are three Tea Party organizations in the area and Mr. Harris
should be more careful when choosing his words and lumping all
groups together. He referred to statements made by Mr. Harris
during an interview. Mr. Winkelseth questioned why Mr. Harris
bad mouthed people he had no discussion with and told him to get
his act together. He asked him to know who he is dealing with
and not lump everyone together.
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Ms. Shirley Parker, Holt, stated she is not a Tea Party person
but she was outside holding up a sign. She expressed her anger
to Mr. Harris at his use of certain words ‘bastard throwoffs,”
“conspiracy theorists and malcontents.” Ms. Parker called Mr.
Harris a tyrant and asked for his resignation. Mr. Harris
replied that when faced with a fool, you never argue with a
fool. He told Ms. Parker, “Biess your heart.” Ms. Parker
looked at the Chairman and began “If you don’t fire him” at
which point Mr. Amunds said he does not have that authority.
Mr. Harris asked if he does not also have a Constitutional right
to express himself.
Mr. Boyles stated there are complicated issues and challenges
which provide opportunities for us to disagree. He said
sometimes in the heat of the moment, we say things we regret.
Mr. Boyles said as a commissioner he works with the other four
gentlemen on the Board and you will find each tries to stay out
of any disagreement between a commissioner and his constituents.
Mr. Boyles said the
