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July 22, 2014
Budget Workshop
A Fiscal Year 2014-15 Budget Workshop of the Okaloosa County
Board of County Commissioners was called to order at 1:00 p.m.
at the Okaloosa County Courthouse in Crestview. Members present
were Charles K. Windes, Jr., Chairman; Nathan Boyles, Vice
Chairman; Wayne Harris; Dave Parisot; and Don Amunds. Also
present were Gary J. Stanford, Finance Director, and Dave
Skarzynski, Budget Analyst, Clerk’s Office; Ernie Padgett,
County Administrator; and Greg Stewart, County Attorney.
MEDICAL EXAMINER
Mr. Padgett stated he was informed the Medical Examiner is out
of pocket and will not be present today.
HEALTH DEPARTMENT
Dr. Karen Chapman, Director of the Florida Department of County
Health in Okaloosa County, shared a number of major
accomplishments of the department during 2014.
Dr. Chapman stated her request for FY 2015 is different than
past years. She explained that she is requesting the county's
Facilities Maintenance Department take over janitorial services
for the Health Department facilities. Dr. Chapman stated
janitorial services have been provided on a contract basis for
the last 14 years. She advised that she has spoken with
Facilities Maintenance Director Don Turner about working this
into his budget. Dr. Chapman stated her budget reflects a 5%
increase.
Upon inquiry by Mr. Amunds, Dr. Chapman said there would be no
savings by using county forces for janitorial services. She
stated the $74,000 request for janitorial services is more than
what was paid this year, adding they were not getting a good
product.
Mr. Harris expressed his support, saying it is a good move and
he thinks this is the first time the Health Department has asked
for an increase.
Mr. Boyles asked if this budget request takes into account any
consideration for placing money into reserves. Mr. Padgett
replied in the negative. Mr. Boyles asked how this process is
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to be followed with $1.5 Million to go for stormwater recovery
and additional funds to be placed in reserves. He asked about
carving out millions of dollars from the budget, how those cuts
will affect departments, and if the departments will get a
second hearing/presentation before the Board when cuts are made.
Mr. Padgett responded the commissioners don’t have to make cuts
as they go. He said after the Sheriff’s presentation he will
make commentary and recommendations on concerns expressed at the
last budget workshop.
Mr. Boyles stated the budget being presented may not be the one
which is adopted, He asked where the $3 Million for stormwater
and road repairs is coming from. Mr. Boyles stressed we may not
have the funds to give the Health Department a 5.3% increase.
Mr. Padgett replied this is the same process we went through
last year and if the Board wants to change the process, it can.
Mr. Harris remarked he has never been a big fan of performance-
based budgets and he has requested the Board go back to a zero-
based budget format. He referred to Mr. Boyles’ earlier remarks
and said this process does not give anyone an opportunity to
come back to the Board.
Mr. Boyles asked if the Board can take a few minutes now to hear
the County Administrator’s plan.
Mr. Amunds suggested that at future workshops, the County
Administrator open by providing answers to questions posed at
the previous budget workshop. Mr. Windes concurred. Mr.
Padgett said that can be done next time. Mr. Boyles stated the
elephant in the room is the Board cannot look Dr. Chapman in the
face and say it can agree to the increase she is requesting.
Mr. Parisot stated at the last meeting the Board approved
allocation of $260,000 to continue public transit which brings
the total to $3% Million to be found. Mr. Windes commented
there is definitely work to be done. Mr. Boyles again asked for
Mr. Padgett to present his plan at this time. Mr. Harris
recommended Dr. Chapman be allowed to complete her presentation.
Dr. Chapman spoke on Medicare revenues and readjusted programs
for family planning and STDs. She added this is the first time
since 2008 any kind of layoffs had to be done because of a
revenue shortfall. Dr. Chapman projected a deficit budget but
felt she could make up $125,000 to $150,000 during the year to
cover the deficit. At Mr. Amunds’ inquiry, Dr. Chapman
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explained the impact on her budget and level of service
resulting from Obamacare.
Mr. Steve Czonstka, Niceville, asked Dr. Chapman if there are
any plans to bring illegal immigrants to Okaloosa County, noting
many are being transported to military installations. He
expressed concerns about unknown health issues and if screenings
will be done. Dr. Chapman replied she has no knowledge of any
plans to use Okaloosa County military facilities for immigrants.
She added that Senator Gaetz sent a letter to Health Services
asking for their specific plans and expectations for the State
of Florida but there has been no response that she is aware of.
REVIEW OF PRIOR BUDGET WORKSHOP ISSUES
Mr. Windes said he feels the bulk of work is done in the County
Administrator’s Office but the commissioners are only getting
“bits and pieces” on the budget. Mr. Padgett responded that he
believes we are all saying the same thing. He understood there
to be three issues from the previous workshop. Mr. Padgett
stated staff will fine tune the budget as we go, stressing they
are always updating as the figures (revenue numbers) come in.
Mr. Padgett stated Mr, Parisot requested detailed information on
the expenditure levels in the three categories: Public Safety,
Essential Services, and Quality of Life. A pie chart was
presented on the screen showing the percentage of allocations
for each category. Mr. Stanford clarified that he understood
Mr. Parisot’s question to be on the General Fund dollars rather
than the entire budget and this chart reflects proposed cost
distribution for FY 2015 in those three categories. Mr. Padgett
gave the percentages:
® Public Safety: 58.2% or $46,449,423
e Essential Services: 31.8% or $25,374,567
®@ Quality of Life: 10.0% or $ 8,022,406
The pie chart, as well as a bar graph, was used to show the
expenditures in the 2012, 2013, and 2014 budgets, and the
proposed FY 2015 budget.
Mr. Padgett stated the next question was regarding the
Unincorporated Parks MSTU. (NOTE: At the July 14 budget
workshop, Mr. Padgett recommended a one-time transfer of
$500,000 from the MSTU Reserves to stormwater for FY 2015.) He
read a portion of Ordinance No. 13-21 which outlined the
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purposes for creation of this taxing unit. Mr. Padgett stated
last year the Board moved $450,000 to stormwater. The excerpt
listed specific parks to be maintained as identified in the
Stipulation and Agreement dated February 14, 1984. It also
provided for services and improvements within the MSTU for parks
and recreational areas as determined by the Board. This
ordinance added the provision to provide services and
improvements within the MSTU for management and control of
stormwater and “such other services and improvements as
necessary for the provision of a stormwater utility.”
Mr. Parisot told Mr. Padgett he was reading from the ordinance
adopted last year but the Board made a commitment that the money
in reserves on September 30, 2013 would remain in reserves and
would only be used for parks. He said he wants to uphold that
commitment made to the citizens. Mr. Parisot added he does not
have a problem with “borrowing.”
Mr. Amunds asked if the money from Walton County with regard to
a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on expenses for the Medical
Examiner’s Office is factored into the proposed budget. Mr.
Padgett answered that Walton County was notified last year they
had to make payment toward the Medical Examiner's facility. He
stated that has not been factored into the budget.
Mr. Windes stated Mr. Parisot was satisfied with Mr. Padgett’s
comment on the Unincorporated Parks MSTU but Mr. Boyles is not.
Mr. Boyles said last year it was also pointed out there would be
a negative annual cost in the Parks budget which will eat up
reserves to pay operating costs. He expressed great concern
about robbing another half-million dollars from this reserve
after the commissioners said they would not do that. Mr. Boyles
said this should be fixed but not by slight of hand. Mr.
Padgett disagreed, saying it is not slight of hand or robbing
the fund. He told the Board they could make a run at a sales
tax or a stormwater utility. Mr. Boyles told his fellow
commissioners they must take charge and said he believes the
suggested direction is misguided. Mr. Padgett responded by
telling the commissioners they are the policy makers and staff
needs direction. Mr. Boyles was of the opinion that was the
subject at the last meeting and asked for alternatives.
Mr. Harris said he sees the only foreseeable alternative is to
advocate for a referendum. He said we will never achieve
anything with piece meal efforts. Mr. Harris objected to
throwing good money after bad and added that it is too late this
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year to put this item on referendum. He added this problem will
never be taken care of if we don't get aggressive.
Mr. Amunds felt if the Board makes a promise, it needs to keep
that promise. He agreed with Mr. Boyles’ and Mr. Parisot’s
earlier comments about not pulling any money from this reserve
fund. Mr. Amunds said he believes there is consensus to direct
the County Administrator to take that off the table. He
continued by stating we should follow up on other revenue
sources/income.
With regard to the issue of Walton County sharing expenses for
the Medical Examiner facilities, Mr. Amunds said just because a
letter was sent, does not mean compliance and asked for a report
on the follow through. Mr. Padgett replied the Medical Examiner
said they billed Walton County for its share of the expenses,
adding that he has not seen a signed MOU with Walton County.
Mr. Amunds stated if the Board directed a MOU to be established,
then it is the county’s responsibility to put it into place. He
expressed concern there is no MOU in place or any information on
the costs due Okaloosa County. Mr. Amunds stated someone should
be held accountable. Mr. Boyles commented the public will
certainly hold the commissioners accountable.
Mr. Windes said these items will be placed at the beginning of
the next budget workshop agenda to answer the commissioners’
questions. He said they will expect more and better answers.
Mr. Boyles noted another item on the list is $1.5 Million for
road repairs and setting aside additional allocation for General
Fund Reserves. Mr. Padgett referred to the reimbursement from
FEMA for the April 29 rainstorm event and said the State and
Okaloosa County will split the remaining costs. Mr. Stanford
explained that per the funding agreement, FEMA will reimburse
75%. The remaining 25% local match will be shared by the State
and the county, both with a 12%% share. Mr. Stanford advised
that is generally how FEMA and the State provide assistance.
Mr. Padgett reiterated the budget is fine-tuned as we go and
there are two months left before adoption of the budget. He
advised work is continuing on increasing General Fund Reserves.
Mr. Boyles commented it looks like we are tossing couch cushions
and buying lottery tickets. He said everyone is asking for an
increase and asked if he is supposed to nod and smile about
these increases. Mr. Boyles stated he has an obligation to
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participate in this process and not just wait on the numbers,
thinking it will work out in the end.
Mr. Harris said
