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have set- up a calendar as follows:
Longman & Walker (City' s Pension Attorney)--
7/ 25/ 07 - First Draft of Reports Due, to be shared with all parties
8/ 01/07 - Second Draft of Reports Due
8/ 07/ 07 - Final Reports Due for 8/ 14/ 07 City Council Agenda
This calendar has been discussed with and agreed to by these Advisors.
The content of the reports will be: 1.) opinions on past practices, 2.) opinions on the recommendations
made bythe Finance Director!Plan Administrator, and 3.) any other advice or suggestions they wish to
make to City Council on the GE Pension Plan.
In addition, I will be working with Mark Wiltsie, Chairman of the GE Pension Plan Advisory
Committee, to set- up a meeting within these dates so that the Advisory Committee may make or add
recommendations to these reports.
Please let me know at the 6/ 26/ 07 City Council meeting:
If these arrangements do not meet your expectations, so that I can make adjustments to
this plan to meet your needs, or
If you have specific questions or information you wish to have addressed in these reports.
Thank you, and please let me know if you have any questions.
8/ 2/2007
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Helen Spencer
From: Joyce Shanahan
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1 : 25 PM
To: 4eagles@cox. net
Cc: Virgil; Mike Holmes ( mikeycmat@aol.com); Dennis Reeves; Mike Anderson; Bill Garvie; Wayne Pullen;
Mike Minich ( mike@seminc. net); Toni L Craig; Lisa Absher; Helen Spencer
Subject: RE: Comprehensive Budget
Good Afternoon Mr. Hartwell:
Staff is not changing the methodology for calculating our actual contribution ( Annual Required Contribution), which has
always been and continues to be calculated by the actuary and invoiced quarterly.
What I believe staff is accomplishing by utilizing the one- year delayed budget methodology ( prior year Annual Required
Contribution) is to assure that there is little or no variance between what is budgeted for pension expenses and what we
are actually contributing. The actuary provides the Annual Required Contribution amount for this budget methodology,
staff does not calculate this. According to the actuary, this is a standard method used by many cities to be able to know
their pension contribution requirements before the city budget is passed for each fiscal year.
If it is Council's desire to approve a specific process for budget development of pension estimates, then staff will gladly
change the process accordingly.
Thank you.
Joyce Shanahan
City Manager
City of Fort Walton Beach, FL
Phone: 850- 833- 9504
Fax: 850- 833- 9640
Cell: 850- 803- 9621
HI' C
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From: James E. Hartwell Jr [ mailto: 4eagles@cox. net]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9: 47 AM
To: Joyce Shanahan
Subject: RE: Comprehensive Budget
Joyce.
I may not have presented my question clearly enough, sorry. My question lf a new methodology for the application
is...
of the General Pension Fund is being why hasn' t it been presented to the Board ( City Council) , from
adopted...
the Pension Committee via. the Pension Plan Administrator. I would have hoped this change would have received
the Committee' s approval and then have had it briefed to the Council for approval. The way I read the Comprehensive
Budget, this new approach was more than a ' budget estimate tool' for City budget you have changed the
estimates...
Pension Plan savings methodology. Have I read this correctly?
Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.
And thank you for forwarding all of my e- mails to other council members. I prefer to operate totally in the ' sunshine' and to
maintain a record of all communications.
Jim.
From: Joyce Shanahan [ mailto:jshanahan@fwb. org]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 20079: 12 AM
8/ 312007
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To: 4eagles@cox. net
Cc: Helen Spencer; Mike Holmes; Virgil; Dennis Reeves; Mike Anderson; Bill Garvie;
Wayne Pullen ( E- mail); Mike Minich;
toni@tlcpa. gccoxmail.com; Lisa Absher; Charlotte Dunworth
SUbject: RE: Comprehensive Budget
Good Morning Mr. Hartwell:
The strategic plan has been updated through June and we are
working to get that distributed to Council, I apologize for
the delay.
The budget document is the City Manager' s estimate of revenues and
expenses for the ensuing fiscal year. City staff, as
we have done in prior years, solicits the assistance of the actuary to estimate these costs for the
upcoming year. We did
so again this year and Mr.
Tierney recommended this methodology and we incorporated it into our budget development.
The General Employees Pension Advisory Committee, nor the Police Officers or Fire
Fighter Pension committees have
ever reviewed or approved the
methodology used to develop the City' s budget estimates for our pension costs.
I hope you don' t mind, but I have copied other members of Council as
they may have similar questions.
Thank you for the opportunity to respond.
Joyce Shanahan
City Manager
City of Fort Walton Beach. FL
Phone: 850- 833- 9504
Fax: 850- 833- 9640
Cell: 850- 803- 9621
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City of Fort Walton Beach officials are public
records available to the public and media upon request. Your e- mail address and communications may therefore be subject to public disclosure.
From: James E. Hartwell Jr [ mailto: 4eagles@cox. netJ
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7: 35 AM
To: Joyce Shanahan
Cc: Helen Spencer
Subject: Comprehensive Budget
Joyce.
While preparing for a taping of 'City Desk' I was reviewing entries in the
Comprehensive Budget. I have a couple of
questions:
When will the Council receive a status update of the items from the
Strategic Plan? I am especially interested in those
items that were given a 6 month suspense for full implementation, as we are within 30 of that days date. completion
In the Executive Summary, pg 10, under the Top 5
Budget Issues, is listed a ' new' methodology for Pension
Contributions!? When did the Pension Committee submit this approach to Pension Contributions to the Pension Board?
asked two members of the Committee and they both said they were unaware of this
change.
Sorry, for this piecemeal approach to examining the budget but I am time- restricted in my schedule.
Thanks.
Jim.
8/ 3/ 2007
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Helen Spencer
From: Virgil [ vmill63@yahoo. com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 20072: 15 PM
To: Joyce Shanahan
Cc: Toni L Craig; Lisa Absher; Helen Spencer
SUbject: RE: Comprehensive Budget
Using the prior year to calculate the next year' s budget ARC" was a direct question that I asked ofMr Tierney
when we gave his presentation to the council. He replied that most of the Florida cities did this to give them a
real number to work with and that it was acceptable practice. I liked it then and I still support it now-- it is a
good business decision. I thought that the council would have a chance to review all the recommendations
stemming from the pension meeting but we have gotten into a time crunch. We will discuss it during the budget
reVIew.
However, I don't agree with the continued practice of quarterly payments. We should make monthly( invoiced)
payments into the fund to enhance our financial returns on our investment-- we will be financially ahead because
we will be dollar averaging and our funds will be working a longer period of time.
Virgil Miller--Seat 2
Joyce Shanahan <
jshanahan@fwb. org> wrote:
Good Afternoon Mr. Hartwell:
Staff is not changing the methodology for calculating our actual contribution ( Annual Required Contribution),
which has always been and continues to be calculated by the actuary and invoiced quarterly.
What I believe staff is accomplishing by utilizing the one- year delayed budget methodology ( prior year Annual
Required Contribution) is to assure that there is little or no variance between what is budgeted for pension
expenses and what we are actually contributing. The actuary provides the Annual Required Contribution
amount
for this budget methodology, staff does not calculate this. According to the actuary, this is a standard method
used by many cities to be able to know their pension contribution requirements before the city budget is passed
for each fiscal year.
If it is Council's desire to approve a specific process for budget development of pension estimates, then staff will
gladly change the process accordingly.
Thank you.
Joyce Shanahan
City Manager
City of Fort Walton Beach, FL
Phone: 850- 833- 9504
Fax: 850- 833- 9640
Cell: 850- 803- 9621
J
i!'
Please Note: Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from City of Fort Walton Beach officials are
therefore be subject to public
public records available to the public and media upon request. Your e- mail address and communications may
disclosure.
From: James E. Hartwell Jr [ mailto: 4eagles@cox. net]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9: 47 AM
To: Joyce Shanahan
Subject: RE: Comprehensive Budget
Joyce
I may not have presented my question clearly enough, sorry. My question lf a new methodology for the
is...
of the General Pension Fund is
