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I Discussion on City Council Rules of Conduct - Protocol Guide for Elected Officials.
Mr. Anderson referenced Sections 7, 13, 16 & 17 of the City Charter that talk about the general powers
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and rules of the Council, the City Manager and appointment of the City Manager; referenced the
Preamble that says Council is the legislative body of the City, referenced the City Council' s Rules of
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Conduct adopted in 1989, and mentioned the Protocol Guide for Elected Officials that was published in
I 2003 as an informational document for Council. He then mentioned recent comments and actions by a
i Councilman that he thought were inappropriate and a persistent inmngement of the rules and noted
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Council cannot caution a councilman. He expressed his desire that the rules of conduct as stated in the
Charter become the protocol guide and for the City Attorney to review it for Council to establish a means
I~ to sanction or censure behavior they think is inappropriate.
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Mr. Tucker recalled the time Council reprimanded him and said he got the message, for which he had
I apologized and learned from it, and wished to know if he had been out of order. Mr. Anderson clarified
that the Mayor has control of the demeanor of meetings and that the actions he referenced had nothing to
do with demeanor on the podium, but had to do with actions outside of the Council.
I Dr. Pullen wished to make it clear he did not tell the Code Enforcer he was not doing a proper job and had
stressed to him he was doing an excellent job. He said if Council members would attend some of the
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Board meetings and see what goes on in the City, they would understand how things function and what
I goes on. He said he established by the Attorney General' s opinion that he was allowed to speak at
meetings. That Council members have a right to attend any Board meeting they wish, can even address
that Board in the presence of other Board members as long as they don' t talk to each other. Mr. Anderson
commented he is not challenging that a Council member can attend a Board meeting apd speak, but it is
wrong to provide guidance to a Board on how they
, should address matters.
Dr. Pullen responded as to offering an interim City Manager job to a staff worker that he had asked an
employee his aspiration in life and asked if something ever presented itself if that employee was
interested in being an Interim City Manager. Dr. Pullen indicated he has told the City Manager he wants
her to succeed. The City Manager commented when a Council member goes to her staff and ask them,
whether it is in passing conversation, if they have an interest in being an Interim City Manager while she
is still currently the City Manager and if an opportunity ever presents itself, that sounds like a threat to her
as the Manager and sounds like offering a job to one of her employees. Dr. Pullen apologized if it was
taken that way. He indicated he has run many clinics and allowed his employees to talk to anyone and
tell them anything they wanted because if he was doing his job properly he didn' t care what they said to
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The City Manager responded that the inference she does not allow staff
to talk to Council is untrue. She
stated that everyone on Council has talked with her staff and
directly she has been exceedingly patient
with the questions asked, some of which she believes
infringe on her authority as a Manager and trying to
direct staff. She has been very compliant
trying to work with Council to show them that she is not
concerned with staff talking to Council, that she
encourages them to talk with Council and wants Council
to know all the information
they need to know to make an informed decision.
Dr. Pullen wished to establish who runs the
City and it was stated that Council is the legislative branch
and the City Manager administers the day- to- day affairs of the City. Dr. Pullen expressed his
interpretation that the Charter states the City will be run by seven Council members, which is not
collective but an individual
responsibility, and it is his opinion it is Council' s responsib~1ity, as individual
Council members~ to know what is
going on and not only have a right to know, have a responsibility to
find out. He said that is why he looks
up information and other sources and he will continue to do it.
Mr. Anderson expressed his point of view that when a Council member
tells an employee that the City
Attorney is wrong and that his boss is at fault for not taking action, it is undermining the City business;
wherein Dr. Pullen stated he has told the
City Attorney that he has disagreed with her. The City Manager
reiterated that it is Council' s
responsibility to tell her. when they perceive staff is doing something
incorrectly and she in turn will go to staff with the problem so she can take corrective action. She
expressed it is not for Council to terminate staff, it is not for Council to belittle her Department Directors',
in front of their staff which undermines their
authority, and it is not appropriate within the Charter.
Mr. Kelley recalled a time when the
previous City Attorney recommended Mr. Tucker stop before he "
crossed the line with an employee issue, and
posed the question to the City Attorney if she felt it was her ,.'
responsibility to be forthcoming to Council at a time she sees someone strain and to tell Council they are
going outside of their responsibility or the scope of their obligation. The City Attorney
responded she
likes things in black and white so there is a
starting point. She said one Charter provision states that,
basically, a Councilman cannot interfere with the administrative process of the City except for the issue of, .
inquiry, and there is no definition of inquiry. She recalled in September she presented a resolution to~'"
Council that would help define inquiry because she felt it would
give better guidance in written form as to ;,;'
the Code of Conduct. She said that would her the
give ability to say, affirmatively, to one of the
Councilmen they just stepped over the bounds. She said she could not censure a
Councilmember, that
will always be up to Council and with an affirmative four votes Council
can do as they wish. She said
likewise, there are other Charter provisions that state, if it is found that a
Councilmember interferes with
the administrative staff, it is a misdemeanor and other
provisions. She is uncertain what that means
because there is no municipal court that would affect that misdemeanor and
it would have to be taken to
civil court to have a Judge decide whether or not it reached that level of
impropriety. , She agreed there is
a very broad discretion area, but the
guide is something that could help everyone to set out guidelines and
better define what is in the Charter. She said her
only opinion about the Protocol Guide is that many
things duplicate what is in Roberts Rule of Order, and suggested removing those and stick to the Roberts
Rules. She said while she may quietly tell someone
they have stepped over the bounds, she would not
publicly do so unless requested to give an opinion by
another Councilmember.
Mr. Kelley expressed he would
appreciate if when the City Attorney saw an instance, she would alert
Council so they do not cross the line. The
City Attorney said without further guidelines it is hard to say
when to blow the whistle. Dr. Pullen
expressed any time he steps out of bounds he would welcome the
City Attorney' s caution. He added that as far as Pirates Bay, he did not think he had done
line; he found out some facts which he shared with the staff but
anything out of
he did not bring out the marina because
that is not in the City' s purview and he will not
go into it any further because that is DEP' s responsibility.
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The Mayor asked the City Attorney when there are
legal issues and staff is working on it, if it should be
staffs full job and not a
